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		<title>By: where is your line? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Making a Hot Mess out of &#8220;Feminist&#8221; TV</title>
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		<dc:creator>where is your line? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Making a Hot Mess out of &#8220;Feminist&#8221; TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up with sound research into the complexity of consent, rape laws, and recent current events in the college sphere. You smart wonderful people on the internet had much to say when I posted the questions for debate [...] </description>
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		<title>By: where is your line? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The NY Times Hands Feminism to Men</title>
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		<dc:creator>where is your line? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The NY Times Hands Feminism to Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it feels like feminism may be too old, too tired, too vintage to take care of it anymore. However, keep fighting, keep yelling, and keep raising your [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah-- Thanks so much! We actually just won the sexual assault policy battle in the wake of this debacle. This is pretty much a summary thus far: http://www.theeagleonline.com/news/story/campus-community-rallies-against-acts-of-sexual-violence/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah&#8211; Thanks so much! We actually just won the sexual assault policy battle in the wake of this debacle. This is pretty much a summary thus far: <a href="http://www.theeagleonline.com/news/story/campus-community-rallies-against-acts-of-sexual-violence/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theeagleonline.com/news/story/campus-community-rallies-against-acts-of-sexual-violence/</a></p>
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		<title>By: sarah m</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps: Carmen, I don&#039;t know if there is any movement to do policy work at American, but if there is check us out over at SAFER: www.safercampus.org. And hats off to you for the amazing work done thus far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps: Carmen, I don&#8217;t know if there is any movement to do policy work at American, but if there is check us out over at SAFER: <a href="http://www.safercampus.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.safercampus.org</a>. And hats off to you for the amazing work done thus far.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah m</title>
		<link>http://whereisyourline.org/2010/04/american-university-assault-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so tired of the free speech argument. 

Newspapers, whether on campus or not, do not 1) act as a platform for all voices and opinions, nor do they 2) exist in a vacuum. 

1--Editors edit. That&#039;s what they do. A good editor will look at the work they have compiled for publication, and then choose what to publish based on what they think contributes to a given issue of their publication, what they think is an important addition to a given dialogue...there are a long list of reasons of how an editor&#039;s work should be formed. Publishing a piece simply because &quot;free speech exists,&quot; is not how journalism works. People obviously have the right to express their opinions, but they aren&#039;t guaranteed that right by EVERY publication. Editors have the right to choose what they want to publish, to choose what work reflects the kind of publication they want to produce. 

Which brings us to point 2--a campus newspaper has a particular role in the community. It is a publication that is meant to inform students, to create dialogue about various relevant issues, and probably also to entertain. But it also operates within a system that has established codes of conduct---one that presumably focuses on the safety and respect of all students. As Carmen rightly points out, this piece doesn&#039;t follow that code. But aside from that, if the editors of the Eagle looked at the piece in question and thought: &quot;this is really valuable. It really adds to the conversation about sexual assault on this campus, it&#039;s an important minority position that deserves to be heard, and is put forth in a thoughtful, mature way&quot; then I would call them severely misguided but say---OK, publish the piece and face the consequences. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s what happened though. I think the staff of the Eagle thought it would be &quot;provocative&quot; and isn&#039;t that neat and just published it without thinking about their role in the campus community. And they pretty much admit as much in their apology: 

&quot;However, we should have demanded that Knepper’s column be written in a tone befitting such a serious issue. With a topic as controversial and emotionally charged as date rape, we should have ensured that the column was written in a manner that would have engendered constructive conversation. Instead, it inflamed an already sensitive issue and emotionally harmed many.

We have heard back from editors of newspapers, past editors of college publications and many have said similar things: it should have been more thoroughly edited. It should have been improved. This is true, and we regret confusing better editing for censorship. We apologize for our mistake and will do our best to ensure that it will never happen again.

The basic problem with what we published, and the impetus for our reforms, is that we violated the Society for Professional Journalists’ Code of Ethics. There is a provision in there that says simply, “Minimize harm.” By publishing this column we caused undue and unnecessary harm by allowing more bombast than reason, more insults than debate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so tired of the free speech argument. </p>
<p>Newspapers, whether on campus or not, do not 1) act as a platform for all voices and opinions, nor do they 2) exist in a vacuum. </p>
<p>1&#8211;Editors edit. That&#8217;s what they do. A good editor will look at the work they have compiled for publication, and then choose what to publish based on what they think contributes to a given issue of their publication, what they think is an important addition to a given dialogue&#8230;there are a long list of reasons of how an editor&#8217;s work should be formed. Publishing a piece simply because &#8220;free speech exists,&#8221; is not how journalism works. People obviously have the right to express their opinions, but they aren&#8217;t guaranteed that right by EVERY publication. Editors have the right to choose what they want to publish, to choose what work reflects the kind of publication they want to produce. </p>
<p>Which brings us to point 2&#8211;a campus newspaper has a particular role in the community. It is a publication that is meant to inform students, to create dialogue about various relevant issues, and probably also to entertain. But it also operates within a system that has established codes of conduct&#8212;one that presumably focuses on the safety and respect of all students. As Carmen rightly points out, this piece doesn&#8217;t follow that code. But aside from that, if the editors of the Eagle looked at the piece in question and thought: &#8220;this is really valuable. It really adds to the conversation about sexual assault on this campus, it&#8217;s an important minority position that deserves to be heard, and is put forth in a thoughtful, mature way&#8221; then I would call them severely misguided but say&#8212;OK, publish the piece and face the consequences. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s what happened though. I think the staff of the Eagle thought it would be &#8220;provocative&#8221; and isn&#8217;t that neat and just published it without thinking about their role in the campus community. And they pretty much admit as much in their apology: </p>
<p>&#8220;However, we should have demanded that Knepper’s column be written in a tone befitting such a serious issue. With a topic as controversial and emotionally charged as date rape, we should have ensured that the column was written in a manner that would have engendered constructive conversation. Instead, it inflamed an already sensitive issue and emotionally harmed many.</p>
<p>We have heard back from editors of newspapers, past editors of college publications and many have said similar things: it should have been more thoroughly edited. It should have been improved. This is true, and we regret confusing better editing for censorship. We apologize for our mistake and will do our best to ensure that it will never happen again.</p>
<p>The basic problem with what we published, and the impetus for our reforms, is that we violated the Society for Professional Journalists’ Code of Ethics. There is a provision in there that says simply, “Minimize harm.” By publishing this column we caused undue and unnecessary harm by allowing more bombast than reason, more insults than debate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ingrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, personally speaking, you have inspired the shit out of me. Here am I, all depressed and anxious in front of my computer screen, until I got word of all the organizing bubbling up at AU. Awesome, fucking awesome. 

Obviously Matt and Chris don&#039;t have any other claims to back up their argument other than to dig up &quot;dirt&quot; that has nothing to do with the initial incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, personally speaking, you have inspired the shit out of me. Here am I, all depressed and anxious in front of my computer screen, until I got word of all the organizing bubbling up at AU. Awesome, fucking awesome. </p>
<p>Obviously Matt and Chris don&#8217;t have any other claims to back up their argument other than to dig up &#8220;dirt&#8221; that has nothing to do with the initial incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly oppose the values of this piece, yes. However, the free speech you hold so dear is not what was threatened here. This article threatened the safety of students here on our campus. I would also like to point out the following in regards to the “free speech” argument people have been hurling out (and yes, it is bullshit, and yes, I will call you on it):
1. I go to AU. This is a private university that put a limitation on free speech in the Student Conduct Code. This piece violated that limitation by causing emotional harm to countless survivors on campus, many of whom came forward about it as well.
2. The Eagle is not funded by my campus and is independently funded by advertising. They have the right to censor and refuse to publish any piece.
3. The Eagle came forward saying the piece violated the ethics code for the Society of Professional Journalists.
4. It is illegal to have sex with someone when they are drunk, especially if they are beyond the point of consent. A drunk person cannot consent to anything, not legally. Therefore, the argument of the article does not merit publication based on the journalistic standard that papers do not publish pieces encouraging people to break the law or disregarding its stipulations.
5. The Eagle markets itself as a student voice, and it was not articulating the views of its body when it published this piece. They received nothing but freedom of speech in return, and had to publish the letters to the editor early because of the sheer mass quantity of angry responses.
I am not a totalitarian. I am not opposed to free speech. I love expression, I blog about very controversial issues, and I am open about my opinions. You also enjoy this right, and we both practiced it just now. We disagreed, politely and without inciting rape or shaming survivors of date rape out of coming forward with their stories. See how easy it is to be respectful? Freedom of speech is not freedom to publish or be published. Alex Knepper has no such entitlement or inherit right. Nobody needs to publish an argument that is badly written and without factual basis.
I’m a feminist and a communications student. I have written for various publications and websites. Don’t challenge me on “free speech.”

Also, you do not know me or know anything of my life outside of my staff bio on this website. All you should know, then, is how hard I work for what I love. If you want to throw out words and attacks related to privilege and the suburbs, you should probably get to know me before you make a fool of yourself again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly oppose the values of this piece, yes. However, the free speech you hold so dear is not what was threatened here. This article threatened the safety of students here on our campus. I would also like to point out the following in regards to the “free speech” argument people have been hurling out (and yes, it is bullshit, and yes, I will call you on it):<br />
1. I go to AU. This is a private university that put a limitation on free speech in the Student Conduct Code. This piece violated that limitation by causing emotional harm to countless survivors on campus, many of whom came forward about it as well.<br />
2. The Eagle is not funded by my campus and is independently funded by advertising. They have the right to censor and refuse to publish any piece.<br />
3. The Eagle came forward saying the piece violated the ethics code for the Society of Professional Journalists.<br />
4. It is illegal to have sex with someone when they are drunk, especially if they are beyond the point of consent. A drunk person cannot consent to anything, not legally. Therefore, the argument of the article does not merit publication based on the journalistic standard that papers do not publish pieces encouraging people to break the law or disregarding its stipulations.<br />
5. The Eagle markets itself as a student voice, and it was not articulating the views of its body when it published this piece. They received nothing but freedom of speech in return, and had to publish the letters to the editor early because of the sheer mass quantity of angry responses.<br />
I am not a totalitarian. I am not opposed to free speech. I love expression, I blog about very controversial issues, and I am open about my opinions. You also enjoy this right, and we both practiced it just now. We disagreed, politely and without inciting rape or shaming survivors of date rape out of coming forward with their stories. See how easy it is to be respectful? Freedom of speech is not freedom to publish or be published. Alex Knepper has no such entitlement or inherit right. Nobody needs to publish an argument that is badly written and without factual basis.<br />
I’m a feminist and a communications student. I have written for various publications and websites. Don’t challenge me on “free speech.”</p>
<p>Also, you do not know me or know anything of my life outside of my staff bio on this website. All you should know, then, is how hard I work for what I love. If you want to throw out words and attacks related to privilege and the suburbs, you should probably get to know me before you make a fool of yourself again.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Conway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Conway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t an issue of free speech and it would be nice if libertarian trolls would stop trying to make it one. No one is censoring Knepper, respond to the article itself rather than tangential issues surrounding it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t an issue of free speech and it would be nice if libertarian trolls would stop trying to make it one. No one is censoring Knepper, respond to the article itself rather than tangential issues surrounding it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wolkoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wolkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entire incident has made me aware how fleeting are the tenants of free speech rights on college campuses, where overprivileged suburbanites arrive with the mistaken belief that: A) because they hold it as an ideal, it must invariably be true; and B) that they are entitled to an educational experience that never once challenges these dogmatically held convictions. Just admit it: you are, in principle and in practice, opposed to the tenants outlines in the First Amendment. The least you could do is endorse your totalitarian rhetoric openly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entire incident has made me aware how fleeting are the tenants of free speech rights on college campuses, where overprivileged suburbanites arrive with the mistaken belief that: A) because they hold it as an ideal, it must invariably be true; and B) that they are entitled to an educational experience that never once challenges these dogmatically held convictions. Just admit it: you are, in principle and in practice, opposed to the tenants outlines in the First Amendment. The least you could do is endorse your totalitarian rhetoric openly.</p>
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